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Think I should post links for some of the shoot interviews on here?

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Sleazy E
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Hulk Hogan/Ric Flair

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paying kiss to lip sinc was bad and ed ferrara doing his oklahoma character

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Kiss did a thing with WCW at one point in time?


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Yep, KISS were paid a stupid amount of money to perform on a couple of WCW shows and IIRC there was also KISS themed wrestler (The Demon ?) around the same time.

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Well I guess it was stupid of WCW to actual put up that much money to have Kiss play at some of there shows.


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also bad talent management and stupid gimmicks like the no limit soldiers and kee wee

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vince russo and backstage mangement


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david arquette being champ

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it was Russo. I believe Vince sent him to WCW to kill it. Just like i believe he currently sent Russo to TNA to kill it.


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vince mcmahon killed wcw duh...he let his rejects go there and they stunk up the joint and then he bought low...

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It was their best guys not wrestling anymore. Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Sid Vicious all were injured or stopped wrestling the year before the end. Goldberg tried coming back in that last year but it was lack luster couple minute matches against guys he dominated. Then there was Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko, and Perry Saturn all leaving for the WWE at the same time and to make matters worse Benoit was WCW champion at the time. WCW had to rely on their second stringers like Booker T, Diamond Dallas Page, and Scott Steiner who were good but not ready to main event.


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ah, as enlightening as ever. ^_^

still, aptly interesting, as I was just reading Cewsh's review of Slamboree 2000 (which I actually own, somewhere... somewhere) on Rajah.com earlier today.

Spaced (natch) pretty much hit it on the head. the whole issue with sizeable contracts and creative control was an early sign of potential disaster. but by the end of it all, the booking was so flat-out bonkers obscure, that it was only a matter of time before everything imploded.

I do wonder how things would have turned out if the whole Fusient Media Ventures thing had gone through, though. and on that note, as to Bischoff... I have nothing to say about his WCW tenure. there's no need. where he and TNA are concerned, however...

I'll say this: when Easy-E seems to be more concerned with taking potshots at the IWC on his twitter, than focusing on the future prospects of the company who employ him with an air of professionalism, then something's amiss.


on the subject of shoot interviews, I don't pay too much mind to them, because at the end of the day, everyone has their own agenda. sure, they're interesting from a certain point of view, but as to offering concrete truths on one thing or another... I'll generally take several pinches of salt.

and to be honest, a Nash interview would be waaaaaay down in my list of interests. I've heard enough from him over the years to have a fair idea of where he's coming from.

(although it was painfully amusing watching him attempt to verbally spar with Punk several weeks back. yow.)


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Yep, KISS were paid a stupid amount of money to perform on a couple of WCW shows and IIRC there was also KISS themed wrestler (The Demon ?) around the same time.

ah, Dale Torborg... where would the White Sox be without you now?


...and Ready to Rumble was godawful.

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on the subject of shoot interviews, I don't pay too much mind to them, because at the end of the day, everyone has their own agenda. sure, they're interesting from a certain point of view, but as to offering concrete truths on one thing or another... I'll generally take several pinches of salt.

Yeah, I pretty much take them as more soapbox than documentary. There are many enjoyable ones out there though - Raven & Sandman are always good for a laugh (both have their own unique versions of things), Ultimate Warrior is bonkers, Vampiro comes across as credible but some of the stories are wtf?!?

Aaaaand back on to the topic, some extended reading for anyone interested in getting more info:

The Death of WCW by R.D. Reynolds & Bryan Alvarez
Controversy Creates Cash by Eric Bischoff & Jeremy Roberts

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Yeah, I pretty much take them as more soapbox than documentary. There are many enjoyable ones out there though - Raven & Sandman are always good for a laugh (both have their own unique versions of things), Ultimate Warrior is bonkers, Vampiro comes across as credible but some of the stories are wtf?!?


having met the gent in person, I can happily say Raven has one of the most learned and generally all-round smart heads on the shoulders of any wrestler I've encountered. any time he has something to say, I'm happy to listen.

granted, he also managed to scare the shit out of me at the same time, at said occasion. but hey. I'd expect nothing less. ;)

always had a soft spot for Vamp, incidentally. a part of me wished he could have replicated his Mexican fame to further shores, because he probably deserved to.

Warrior's a fucking lunatic. nuff said.

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