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 Post subject: Ultimate Cataclysm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:03 am 
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So following on from "Hunger" (even though it only just started this week) we now know that there will be an "Ultimate Cataclysm" series by Bendis & Bagley.

Current favourite rumour appears to be that this is the grande finale of the Ultimate Universe and that some characters will be folded into the main 616 universe as part of the Marvel NOW Phase 2 launches in January.

Thoughts/opinions/theories of your own?

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They are ending the Ultimate universe? Please say you are bulshitting me that would be terrible!


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Horrible. . I would hate to see the Ultimate U integrated with 616..

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Well take from this what you will.

Quote:
CBR: Is there any way in which this serves as a capper to the Ultimate Universe?

Mark Paniccia: Hmm, you always challenge me to be editorially tricky, Kiel. But I'm up for it! Let me say this, there are some stunning resolutions coming across all the titles!

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CBR: Does "Cataclysm" live up to that promise?

Mark Paniccia: Oh, most definitely. There are going to be some tears shed, for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Ultimate Cataclysm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:08 am 
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to be frank,I'm actually surprised it lasted for as long as it did after the way they butchered it by killing off the only superhero who was worth a damn in that universe,who was practicly the reason they didn't axe that imprint much earlier

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And to completely buck Lex's point I don't even know which one he means but I suspect Spiderman which is *drum roll* the one Ultimate comic I have never and will never read!


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Just finished reading Hunger #1... The Ultimate U Watcher states that "The very fabric of time and space are being torn permanently." That kinda sounds like the two universes will indeed be merged to some extent to me. Bit of a bummer. But, honestly, the Ultimate comics have been losing my interest lately. . The Ultimate X-Men finally got their Utopia, but another group of mutants have waged a war because of it. The Ultimates have been kinda lackluster as well. :shrug: Guess we'll see what happens.

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The ultimate universe isn't at it's best now, only spiderman is still very good, the rest are fine, but not as good as they used to be..I think they made things move to fast, killing people, turning others bad and so on too quickly..

If they merge with the regular univ. it'll be very weird..and would result in some horrible origins (imagine having to explain who mike morales is to someone in two years, when the ultimate line is long dead..)


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I don't think it will really merge. They're not going to suddenly make Thor into some kind of whale loving guy who uses a mechanical hammer, have Black Widow be dead/evil/not Natasha or change Wasp/Pym/mutants in general to match that universe. Maybe Ultimate Spider-Man ill show up or something, but I'd say Marvel's big heroes are all safe from being merged with the lame (and from what I've seen much less popular) Ulitmate U versions.

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From what I can gather (mainly from other fan sites, nothing official from Marvel yet) the more likely thing will just be some characters moving over to the 616. Nobody will be replaced or become a hybrid of 616/UU characters, just an Angela type deal.

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I thought we were already guaranteed an appearance of Ult. Spider-man. I think a merger would possibly see Ult Reed Richards ported over as a villain along with Ult Hulk, possibly some of the new mutants. Outside of that the versions aren't really all that different from what I recall.

Its a shame, after a good start the Ultimate Universe hasn't lived up to it potential, a reboot would be better with a more radical vision. But Marvel only seem to see the pennies and irrespective of any critical acclaim a title gets canned if it doesn't get the numbers, where as DC use to support some of the more niche titles, though apparently no more judging by the current culling of some titles.

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I can easily see some of the characters ported over, especially some of the mutants. Isn't the current Ultimate X-book star some kid of Wolverine or something? I could see him coming to the 616 (especially since there is a precident for alternate universe children of X-Men making 616 their home, like Rachel Grey and X-Man).

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batman55555 wrote:
I can easily see some of the characters ported over, especially some of the mutants. Isn't the current Ultimate X-book star some kid of Wolverine or something? I could see him coming to the 616 (especially since there is a precident for alternate universe children of X-Men making 616 their home, like Rachel Grey and X-Man).

And Wolverine is supposed to "die" again sometime next year...

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 Post subject: Re: Ultimate Cataclysm
PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:09 pm 
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why would they want to kill him off ? there's another X-film starring him next year

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X-Men is Fox, now that Marvel have their own movies to hype they could give a shit about what other studios do.

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